Hypervibe G17 Pro
First thing I noticed: Feels like a cross between these the Zaaz 20k and Vibraflex.
I had a chance to review the Hypervibe G17. It’s been about 6 hours since I tried it and all I can say is this thing is a beast. the
I knew the power of their original machine so I’ll be honest I was a little intimidated. Stepping on it, the first thing I noticed was it was smooth. I immediately remembered how standing on the Gallileo felt ($15,000 gold standard for pivotal WBV from Germany). What surprised me was that as I increased the speed I was expecting that smoothness to decline and the machine to maybe get loud or shake a bit but none of that happened. I cranked it up to where the original machine maxed out at 28 hertz. This thing purred like it wasn’t breaking a sweat…in fact I was the one breaking a sweat! Standing on the G17 at a speed of 20hZ felt as smooth as standing on most competitive brands around 6-10hZ.
The other thing I noticed is I felt more comfortable at that 28hZ speed compared to the original Hypervibe. With even more power behind each millimeter of displacement you feel the same consistent force behind the movement of the plate. It’s like the difference between a smooth Sine Wave or something with a short ascension and descent. Most brands I get on to test at higher speeds have almost a jagged wave and jackhammer type of pop to them.
When I did a new video review of the Gallileo and Vibraflex (American brand name) I remembered how easy it was to stand on their plate even at the edges where the greatest magnitude is experienced. I’m not trying to make it sound like the G17 was simple to stand on and anyone can do it; I’m in really good shape and even still at a certain frequency point my body would just tense up too much from the acceleration force and I would slide off the plate. So this machine is really opening up a whole new range of conditioning potential.
The other thing I immediately noticed about the G17 was how little the plate’s frame and column with bars vibrated or shook. In fact it didn’t really shake, but I just felt a mild vibration. If we look at the Gallileo design or the original Power Plate (now known as the Vibro Gym) These machines have a smart design because the handle bar column is not directly attached to the frame of the plate. Also the Vivo 660 was the other exception in that while it was attached to the frame the column didn’t move a bit. So the G17 whether it is at a slow hZ or high, the column is stable the whole way and that is quite unusual compared to other machines on the market. Even with the original Hypervibe, I would notice that at the slower speeds the handle bar column would shake more and then around 12hz+ it would stabilize out.
The other thing to note in regards to extraneous vibration of the frame around the plate is that the G17 also has the signature patented spring shocks legs that the Original Hypervibe has. They are the only company I have seen to have this design and it is absolutely necessary to have this instead of regular legs because with the speed and GForce power their machines are capable of producing, if it doesn’t have spring legs then the whole machine will vibrate across the floor and also could even damage an unprotected floor. Even though this is one of the most powerful plates the G17 doesn’t transmit much vibration to the ground even at 30Hz. It is far quieter than the original Hypervibe model. Besides the spring shocks the internal gears have eccentrics that function to counterbalance the platform momentum to kill the vibration to the floor. This is good to know if you live on a second floor or apt.
One easy test to tell a lot about the engineering of a machine (stability of the internal tilt mechanism and counter balances), simply tilt back the machine back with someone’s help so you can go around the front and look at the bottom of the plate. You can also turn on the machine in this position to note how much it shakes. If you see regular solid legs then you can assume that the machine does not produce significant Gforce (despite what they claim in the specifications). Usually solid legs will be sufficient for anything under 7Gs, very heavy machines at lower speeds, and or alternatively high end machines that are tuned so well they don’t vibrate into the frame much.
Going on the G17 was an eye opener to what real Gforce and real Frequency specs are supposed to feel like. If you haven’t seen my latest review videos I try to validate some of the specs on various machines using certain mechanical measuring equipment and I compare these results to an independent Engineering Firm’s tests performed with popular whole body vibration machines on the market. Even without using advanced testing equipment I challenge anyone to stand on the G17 or even the Original Hypervibe and put it at the same spec speeds you see other brands of machines are claiming. If a machine goes to 17 hz like the Vivo 460 for example, put the Hypervibe at 17hZ and test both. People will realize that even if other brands actually have legit frequency specs, that is just one aspect to pay attention to, the other more importantly is the Acceleration Force (Gforce) behind that frequency. The acceleration force is really what is responsible for all the health benefits and this also will depend on where you stand on the plate which effects the Magnitude.
This can also be proven even more scientifically with EMG (electromiography) electrodes placed on the muscles like the legs. These are Biomechanial analysis tools to be able to assess activation of those muscles based on the force it would receive from the plate.
So we know that the Gallileo goes to 35hZ in regular mode and 40hZ in sports mode and that it can do this because it has been the best gold standard for a pivotal vibration machine. Some other companies claim this frequency range but 9 times out of 10 they are fraudulent. The Vivovibe 660 (which I have a picture above, costs $13,500 that goes to 40 hertz) is a good example of a machine that if you stood on it at 40hz you would hear and feel the difference between that and the Gallileo. But this new G17 also making the 35hZ claim feels just like the Gallileo.
On the Gallileo and G17 performing a static hold squat at those high speeds I can survive for about 1 minute. Then I regret it the next day as I get out of bed. I can do 1 minutes on a Vivo 660 at “40 hz” and it’s easy, it makes me feel like some kind of Olympic champ in great shape. So if you are looking for a machine to appeal to your Ego then definitely purchase the Vivo 660 J Don’t get me wrong I’m not putting down that machine, but I just have a problem with a $13,500 price tag and 40hZ speed which isn’t really 40hZ.
Another key spec to pay attention to is that the G17 can hold 440lb. The Gallileo can hold 160 kg 353 lbs max. That is almost 100lb more!! So if you weigh a lot and still want to bring on barbells you can do that. Also if you want to do squats with a heavy bar of weights that is possible as well. Ok but most people don’t fit into this specific type of usage, so the benefit of getting that extra 100lb is that this shows that the G17 has a more robust design internally where it can generate that kind of force and power needed to move that kind of weight. Yes I’m actually saying that this machine might have trumped the Gallileo with raw force power. Ok but what if you are just one person who needs something for your home for regular usage or for a small family…well this machine is probably over kill. Having all that extra power is great for if you have a large amount of people who will be using the machine like in a practice, gym, center, clinic, etc. That is why there are two other models of Hypervibe for most folks. The engineering accomplishment of the G17 model should make folks recognize that the company knows what it’s doing and make the other two models look that much more appealing.
I guess what really just blows me away about this machine over all is that after so many years of engineering Hypervibe somehow found a way to replicate or maybe surpass the Gallileo (without lying about their specifications) but with at a fraction of the retail price tag. 1/5th the price to be exact.
Quick notes about health conditions:
For Bone Density the higher hZ and Gforce are definitely desirable. The G17 has more than enough.
For breaking through Cellulite and fat blockages and majorly backed up Lymphatic systems this is a good machine
For those looking to train the muscles harder this machine has the highest frequencies for that
When I stood on this machine my legs got itchy. I hadn’t experienced that on a machine so quickly because I am very well experienced and a regular WBV user. That effect usually takes me 15-20 minutes on with most machines. I got that effect this time within 5 minutes.
Because the amplitude goes to 7mm, this machine is probably one of the most least jarring even while standing on the widest edges of the plate. This is actually the ideal setup for a machine if it can do less amplitude but still bring the magnitude of acceleration force then one can be relatively comfortable even at high Gforce and speed. One could also say that if a person has challenges with their balance or might be very old, then lower amplitude is more desirable. I remember that with the 10mm amplitutde on the original Hypervibe model, standing on the edges at higher speeds I would be more challenged to keep my feet from sliding (this is going barefoot)
The Hypervibe G17 Pro is coming soon: Latest update February 1st 2015
Everyone is saying it can't go to 35 hertz, it’s not possible. There are a couple other machines that make this claim people…All I remember it was more powerful than the Hypervibe Performance and very similar to the Gallileo. The smoothness I have learned is some new stabilizing technology they came up with. They have probably done a similar design as the Gallileo to get that effect..I talk about it in the above review. What I don't know yet is exactly how they smoothed things out besides the smaller plate size and reduced amplitude. It might be proprietary but I will do my best to get the inside information as I always do. The screen is color now and has some type of video playback..fancy shmancy. If I could just blue tooth in my baby monitor that would be perfect. Also, seems to have a built in trainer with hundreds of programs and exercises which is unusual. I didn't use that as I just stood on it the first time.
I have no idea what the price will be and with all the improvements over the Performance model and how it compares to the feel and specs of the Gallileo I’m assuming it’s going to be expensive as this is a more commercial grade machine. The older Hypervibe was still considered a residential machine although many physical therapy, Chiropractic clinics, and Gyms still purchased them. My old Hypervibe still works just as good as the day I bought it 5 years ago, never had to change a belt or anything.
The Hypervibe G17 if I had to guess based on what I know so far, I would say it might cost around $4500 to $5000 with the new touch screen. But it has been hinted to me that I might be estimating too high! If that’s the case then we’ve got a game changer ladies and germs. The older Hypervibe weighed 110 pounds and this one is 60 more pounds. Based on what I was told about the older one, the machine had to be lighter when it goes at 28 hertz as it had to move in a wave so the machine wouldn't resonate.
I will let people know more when I get one of these and I have no idea how long will take. Maybe it was just a prototype but I saw it and no one is going to tell me I can't write about a machine I experienced. I will do a video review on this machine once it comes out. Until then, I will continue using my older Hypervibe.
The Hypervibe G10 Mini vibration machine review:
As a reference, the first generation Hypervibe Performance went to 28 hertz x11mm (308mm) and the Hypervibe G17 has 35 hertz x7mm (245mm)
The Hypervibe G10 Mini has only 5mm less displacement than the G17. For working out, at 20 hertz, this machine with its 12mm amplitude should give anyone the hardest workout they can possibly do.
At top speed this little machine is brutal. Expect to be sore all over the next day.
The plate size is a true 25.8 inch plate. There is no skirt on the edge you can't step on.
The weight of the G10 plate is super light so you feel more "pop than any of the plates. The entire machine ways 54 pounds. The G force is super high and concentrated. The G force is 9.7 Gs. The Zaaz 20K for example has a top rating of 5.5 Gs. There is no rail so its super portable.
With the extra displacement (12mm amplitude) the Hypervibe G10 allows for the G force to be concentrated with a super high "pop" and the extra 2mm it can go allows the machine extra leverage. The machine held its maximum weight with no problem. 310 pounds did not bog this machine down a bit.
For lymphatic drainage the Hypervibe G10 Mini machine goes down to 5 hertz. I suggest standing closer to the middle of the plate than standing on the edge at 12mm. Talking about tender heels and standing with heal bone on hard plate, not such a good idea. That is until this level is worked up to.